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It would seem that the expert’s point of view is to simply change the header and footer files is the best solution. However they tell us you can in-bed the guestbook if you really insist - but the instructions I’ve seen up to now assume a fair bit of experience with tweaking forms so I’m going to try to post a newbies step by step guide.

I’ve now incorporated the guestbook into two sites, I’ve only bothered with the “add entry” and “view the guestbook” pages as it seems to me the admin page is all the better for looking merely functional. Strangly the confirmation page has merged too, I’m sure there’s a very good reason for this - but it was a bit of a bonus anyway.

The sites I experimented on are:
[url]http://www.jrmmusic.co.uk/gbook/index.php[/url]and [url]http://flynnsbeefarm.co.uk/GuestBook/index.php[/url]

Have a look and if it’s not what you’re trying to do there’s no need to read further.

I attempt this by way of thanks to the real experts on this site who have been a great help to me. I hope I’m not just airing my ignorance but I’m sure someone will tell me if that’s so.

Some knowledge assumed: You can change permissions for the files that need editing, you can wade through html in a simple text editor and you can access & edit the files within advanced guestbook.

• Make your HTML template page; that is any header, footer, navigation bars and page decorations you want to see on your guestbook.
• Make sure all your pictures and hyperlinks have the full path to your files, i.e. http://www.mysite.co.uk/images/apicture.jpg or http://www.mysite.co.uk/mypage.html
• Leave an empty table where you want the guestbook to appear make a note of the width in pixels. If the position of the table is difficult to find place an html comment inside.
• Save your file in a simple text editor (notepad) call it template if you like.


• Go to the style settings in administration set the table width to the same as the table in your html template. Adjust colors and fonts while you’re there if required.
• Now find index.php – it’s in the guestbook folder you may need to use your control panel to access this file. Change permissions if necessary. Copy and paste the file in notebook save it ‘cos if you mess up you can simply paste it back again!
• It should now be on your clipboard if not copy again and paste the whole thing where you put your comment in the html template.
• Select all; copy then paste the merged document in index.php overwriting everything that’s already there. Save it (your new index.php) if it won’t save search the forum for “permissions”.


• VIEW YOUR GUESTBOOK I found that the bit above the guestbook data and below the header looked a bit naff so I had to edit body.php which you can reach through guestbook administration/templates - this is pretty easy as it’s basically html.
• Now if you want the add entry page to be encased in your beautiful website your going to have to repeat the whole procedure with addentry.php. You kept a copy of your plain html template didn’t you? The file for editing the top of the addentry.php file is form.php.

Well that’s enough I’ve spent over an hour on this, reading back it makes sense to me I hope it does to you.

With thanks and apologies to amber222 who really explained this in much fewer words.]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12071.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12071.php GMT
There is a simpler way to do what you have done. Make the initial page as you say, leaving a space for the guestbook to go. Then simply copy everything from before where you want the guestbook to go into the header.php file and the code that appears after into the footer.php. This will add the html to both index and addentry pages.]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12078.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12078.php GMT https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12638.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12638.php GMT
http://proxy2.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4034

Read up and then if you still need help, post again.]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12639.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12639.php GMT https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12642.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12642.php GMT
"MandyFairfield: Take a look at this..
MandyFairfield: and tell me if you can figure out how to install
MandyFairfield: http://proxy2.de/forum/viewtopic.php?p=12638&sid=1f9d007859eb66125e3a19246d8fc89a#12638
FLRazor: Oh my goodness, very complex.
MandyFairfield: YES"]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12643.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12643.php GMT https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12647.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12647.php GMT
http://www.stex-studio.us/mandy

Let me know!]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12651.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12651.php GMT
Yea... because "what a tangled website we weave when first we practice."
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Dearest Mandy et;al

Being considerably older, and much less accomplished in life than you are
I submit the following:

After reading the thread I found myself chuckling, as I know all to well the feeling you surely are experienceing.

I have been fighting with php as well as cgi for over 6 months now.
Being older than dirt, the learning process has long since passed me by, due to old age, A.D.D. heart failure, hip replacements 5 bypasses and a myriad of other things I have somehow managed to survive.

But I digress, not a sympathy plea just a little back ground

I have learned the following after trying to install several very small php scripts and ending in complete failure.

PHP = Pretty hard Programing Especially if you're a newbie and have zero understanding and or as in my case suffer from Alzhiemers Lite Tee hee !

CGI = Can't Get Installed, although I must admit, out of 11 cgi scripts I have tried to install I was somehow successful with the installation of 2 but then discovered that the 3 days it took me to figure it all out were wasted, as I didn't need the scripts anyway. Did ya ever feel as though you were stuck in a loop?

Meanwhile, I installed the advanced guestbook on my server, well actually I selected it from a menu and it installed itself.

Now I have to wait for some one to come up with a wysiwyg editor that I can use to change the look, images, text, placement and all other things I'd like to be able to do to use the guest book on a particular site with out it sdaying "guestbook" and displaying the images and layout that it comes with.

Thats this newbies 2 cents worth
Happy new year to all

Warmest Regards
TC
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The only thing in your list that would affect your ability to learn is the ADD. I know this from personal experince. Hard to learn something, let alone code something, when you get bored within five minutes, your brain is working five times faster than you can type and it sometimes feels like you have a major debate going on in your head. Age is no problem. A good friend of mine is in his late forties and is one of the best programmers I know.

BTW Critic, Your index page is not .php it is .html]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12767.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12767.php GMT
The only thing in your list that would affect your ability to learn is the ADD. I know this from personal experince. Hard to learn something, let alone code something, when you get bored within five minutes, your brain is working five times faster than you can type and it sometimes feels like you have a major debate going on in your head. Age is no problem. A good friend of mine is in his late forties and is one of the best programmers I know.

BTW Critic, Your index page is not .php it is .html[/quote]

Rofl See what I mean?? url should have been
[url]www.globalcritics.org/forums/index.php[/url]

I'm 62 this month lol to be forty again I would kill to be forty

Here is when the problem really comes in ...you indicate that certain folders and template files can be modified, and thats great, if I'm you and have your knowledge But I'm not and I don't ! But I do thank you for your input

In retrospect JTD you could have saved the bandwidth, not only is your reply non-substantive, it reads like a slap in the face
Warmest regard to all
TC]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12770.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12770.php GMT
The only thing in your list that would affect your ability to learn is the ADD. I know this from personal experince. Hard to learn something, let alone code something, when you get bored within five minutes, your brain is working five times faster than you can type and it sometimes feels like you have a major debate going on in your head. Age is no problem. A good friend of mine is in his late forties and is one of the best programmers I know.

BTW Critic, Your index page is not .php it is .html[/quote]
Rofl See what I mean?? url should have been
www.globalcritics.org/forums/index.php

I'm 62 this month lol to be forty again I would kill to be forty

Here is when the problem really comes in ...you indicate that certain folders and template files can be modified, and thats great, if I'm you and have your knowledge But I'm not and I don't ! But I do thank you for your input

In retrospect JTD you could have saved the bandwidth, not only is your reply non-substantive, it reads like a slap in the face
Warmest regard to all
TC]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12771.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12771.php GMT https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12773.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12773.php GMT http://www.techtv.com Newsletters and atleast get a basic grasp. 4 years ago I couldnt turn one on. Let alone do anything else with it. If you are to lazy to learn then maybe you should let your grandkids have the pc. And go back to your rocker on the front porch. BTW Im 45 and we didnt even have computers in school. And Im no php guru but I do ask carb questions and learn small bits from him and others. [size="24"][color="red"][b]READ AND LEARN[/b][/color][/size]. And useing the search option is not hard. Plugin your question and 99.9% you will find your answer.]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12777.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12777.php GMT http://www.techtv.com Newsletters and atleast get a basic grasp. 4 years ago I couldnt turn one on. Let alone do anything else with it. If you are to lazy to learn then maybe you should let your grandkids have the pc. And go back to your rocker on the front porch. BTW Im 45 and we didnt even have computers in school. And Im no php guru but I do ask carb questions and learn small bits from him and others. [size="24"][color="red"][b]READ AND LEARN[/b][/color][/size]. And useing the search option is not hard. Plugin your question and 99.9% you will find your answer.[/quote]

You Sir are clearly over matched! I built my first computer when we didn't even have keyboards! we input data with switches! longt before you were a glimmer in your pappys eye, as to my rocker ...don't you worry about it, try learning some intelligent communication skills so you don't come off as such a first class (read no class) schmuck. Like I told Amber if you don't like the way folks request help ignore their requests instead of being a wise ass and telling them you'll help them for $50.00. Who the hell do you think you are? Some great forum gruru? Feel free to ignore any post I enter, as you clearly do not have the intelligence to hold a respectful line of communication. You're just another member here buddy not some self appointed demi-god. It's smart assed young pups like you that make the world such a miserable place!
When you come to engage in a battle of wits, be sure to arrive with siomething other than half, dim and nit!
End transmission]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12780.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12780.php GMT https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12782.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12782.php GMT Rest assured I do understand, as do I also understand the "Irritation"
However .........there are those that reply with intelligence and respect, such as yourself.
Then there are those that wouldn't know respect if it jumped up and bit them in the ass. Those are the types that need to get a life, instead of bitchiong about the habits of other users and the mistakes that they perceive the other users making! They should go out and get a job.,.,.do something to justify their existence on the planet, something worthwhile.

I get paid very well to be an asshole and criticize, so I can afford what I do even though I do it very sparsely at global, they're new but they'll grow and they reward me quite well,
At anyrate thank you for your input, understanding and offer of help


Warmest regards
TC

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Thank you for making my case and point so elequently]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12787.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12787.php GMT )]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12789.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12789.php GMT )[/quote]
Do what I do ...ignore the child
Warmest regards
TC]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12792.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12792.php GMT )[/quote]
Do what I do ...ignore the child
Warmest regards
TC[/quote]

Then why didn't you ignore this thread to begin with?

Most people just post and expect an answer when they come back they
don't expect you to say search the forums so we don't have to waste time
itterating the same things over and over again. I would also like to stress
we're doing this for free. The guy who had a problem offered money we
didn't ask so that's his problem.

If you don't have a solution to the problem then don't bother replying. After
all this [b]is[/b] a 'Support' forum not a spam-fest.

Auron]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12797.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12797.php GMT I, like many others I suspect, stumbled upon it as it was provided for install by my ISP
Up until I installed it my only experience was with html, css and 48 hours trying to get a simple form to email script working.

I asked those irritating questions on this forum and got the one liner replies but I was never ignored. Carbonise, Amber222 and others enabled me to get the AGB the way I wanted it and yes I learnt a little about php & cgi on the way.

They did not demand payment and I have never needed to phone a premium rate help line (if one existed)

My original post in this thread was my effort to pass on what I had learnt while still enough of a newbie not to take for granted prior experience of tweaking forms etc.

It may have been a clumsy attempt but I know at least one person managed to follow them - so the post was worthwhile.

With the help of contributors to this forum I have managed to produce two guestbooks. One merged into the site using the header & footer adjustments the other as described above. I have managed to import the data from another guestbook to AGB on my drrinK! site. I have made the email a required field on my flynns bee farm site and then used carbonizes method of encrypting the email address to help protect visitors from resulting spam. As well as other mods that I won't bore you with here but when I was stuck I would post to this forum and receive either a complete solution or a one line prod in the right direction often within minutes of posting.

My repayment for this help is to put my two-penneth in occasionally on this forum safe in the knowledge that if I'm wrong someone will tell.

[url]http://www.jrmmusic.co.uk/gbook/index.php[/url]
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Auron]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12805.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12805.php GMT I've been offline the past few days and missed the fun! Just arriving here, I don't know where you told me this... but I am certain I have never asked anyone for $50. I have fixed a lot of guestbooks, installed even more, but I have never asked anyone for anything.

I am no "wise ass." I am merely trying to encourage people to use the search feature - as nicely as I can - which is extremely difficult what with all the sensitive egos around. I certainly wouldn't be offended if someone suggested the search feature. If someone mentioned the question was just recently answered I would be grateful knowing that I will be able to find it by looking - and if I were offended, I certainly wouldn't write about it and let the whole world know I'm on an ego trip.

Remember why we're here: to learn something. If what you learned is to use the search feature, what's the harm in that?

Yes, Carbonize... can you get in here? We desperately need some stickies. I doubt people will be as offended by a sticky that reads "do a search first."]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12823.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12823.php GMT http://www.diabetesrun.com and my guestbook was hacked pretty badly. I know nothing about computers (this does not make me a bad person) and my webmaster was at a loss as to how to fix the guestbook --when along came amber2222 - she took care of my guestbook and never asked for a penny - i even offered to give her money but she refused. She saved my website's guestbook without asking for anything in return and I am extrmemlygreatful - so those of you cl;aiming she charges for her services are mistaken...
-JaseGross]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12834.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12834.php GMT https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12835.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12835.php GMT
On a lighter note (and other than this thread) I'm enjoying learning all the info on the forum! Thanks!]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12839.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12839.php GMT
On a lighter note (and other than this thread) I'm enjoying learning all the info on the forum! Thanks![/quote]




Just to let you all get your shorts in a bundle The statements about being a wise ass and charging were originally directed at jtd not at amber.
Amber quoted a snipette of the statement that I made which made it look as thought I was speaking about her when I was making a general statement about folks that cop an attitude. Once again it shows how folks jump on a bandwagon that is clearly careening down the hill side rofl.

enjoy yourselves

Pappy says " Never argue with those less intelligent than your self, you can't learn anything and they'll never get the point as they are to self absorbed to objectively look and listen! Therefore they will remain in their feeble mental state and never experience growth!"

Taking Pappys advice, no longer watching this inate thread

Warmest regards
TC]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12846.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12846.php GMT
like your http://www.fatjack.co.uk/drrink/index.htm web site and its use of GB in many guises, am I right in assuming you have set up several completely separate Guestbook installations on your server ?]]> https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12853.php https://proxy2.de/forum/posts/preList/3921/12853.php GMT
Nothing as clever I am afraid. Just one GB - but it seemed to me going to all the trouble of integrating the GB into the site, to do it seamlessly, some of the site should integrate into the guest book. So GB looking links appear on each page and pages using lists I have stolen the GB look.

I am trying at the moment to populate the gig list using php but at present it's just html.

fj

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